Von wo kammen die Illyrer in dm Balkan?
die illyrer sind heute die vorfahren der albaner!!!!
aber ich will unbedingt wissen woher die illyrer kammen???
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In Greek mythology, Hyllus /ˈhɪləs/ ( Greek : Ὕλλος) or Hyllas (Ὕλᾱς) was son of Heracles and Deianira , husband of Iole , nursed by Abia who was also claimed to be the earliest Illyrian king. [ Hesiod, Catalogue of Women fr. 25.17–19.], [ John Middleton (ISBN: 9780765680501), World Monarchies and Dynasties, page 428]
As it's said, the earliest known king of Illyria was Hyllus (The Star), who had established the kingdom of Illyrians who is recorded to have died in the year 1225 B.C. [ John Middleton (ISBN: 9780765680501), World Monarchies and Dynasties, page 428]
Hyllus and his brothers invaded Peloponnesus, but after a year's stay were forced by a pestilence to quit. They withdrew to Thessaly, where Aegimius, the mythical ancestor of the Dorians, whom Heracles had assisted in war against the Lapidae, adopted Hyllus and made over to him a third part of his territory. After the death of Aegimius, his two sons, Pamphylus and Dymas, voluntarily submitted to Hyllus (who was, according to the Dorian tradition in Herodotus V. 72, really an Achaean), who thus became ruler of the Dorians, the three branches of that race being named after these three heroes. [ Hall, Jonathan M. (2014).A history of the Archaic Greek World: ca. 1200-479 BCE (2. ed.). ISBN 9781118340462 .]
However, in later Greek mythology [ E.g. in the myth compendium Bibliotheca of PseudoApollodorus III.5.4, which is not earlier than the first century BC.], Illyrius was the son of Cadmus and Harmonia who eventually ruled Illyria and became the eponymous ancestor of all Illyrian people [ Grimal & Maxwell-Hyslop 1996 , p. 230; Apollodorus & Hard 1999 , p. 103 (Book III, 5.4)].
It seems Hyllus and Illyrius are the same mythological beings as seen from the above and can also be explained linguistically!
In the Albanian language, " Yll" means Star, in some northern Albanian dialects " Hill" with the same meaning.
In Greek, " Ή λιος", or " Ilios", from Ancient Greek ἥλιος ( hḗlios, “sun, sunlight).
Although no unambiguous attestations of words for "sun" have been found in Mycenaean yet, though the Mycenaean word for "sun" is reconstructed as *hāwélios, from PIE *sāwélios .
Loss of prevocalic *s was not completed entirely as evidenced by some surviving words as sélas ‘light in the sky, as in the aurora ’ and selḗnē/selā́nā ‘ moon ’ may be more examples of the same if it derived from PIE *swel- ‘to burn’ (possibly related to hḗlios ‘ sun ’, Ionic hēélios < *sāwélios), thus the reconstruction *hāwélios might not be entirely true!
Threfore, the word " ἥλιος" or ''Illios" in Greek, is probably of Doric, or North-Western Greek dialect
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Die Illyrer sind vermutlich / möglicherweise Vorfahren der Albaner. So viel weiß man über die Illyrer nicht. Nebenbei dürften heutige Albaner auch sehr viele weitere Herkünfte haben. Kelten, Slawen, Germanen, Griechen, Römer, Türken.... was auch immer da alles durchgezogen ist.
Wo die Illyrer herkamen, wird wohl nicht ohne weiteres zu ermitteln sein, das liegt zu weit in der Vergangenheit. Im Ursprung wie alle Menschen aus Afrika. Die meisten europäischen Urvölker waren schon in Europa, als das Eis der Eiszeit verschwand. Die indoeuropäischen Sprachen kamen vermutlich erst "nach" und wurden von fremden Kulturen übernommen.
Wahrscheinlich kamen sie aus dem heutigen Ostdeutschland oder noch etwas östlicher, waren also Nachban von keltischen und germanischen Völkern.
Es Weist wirklich einiges auf Verbindung zu den Kelten hin. Würde man vielleicht heute nicht mehr vermuten, ist aber wirklich so!
LG Darisha
Die illyrer (heutigen Albaner) gab es in Dardanien/ILLYRIEN seid 350 v. Chr.! Die deutschen haben da noch nicht existiert
Ahahaha als die illyer im im leben waren war noch keine deutsche alter🤣